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Hi, everyone. My name is Carolyn Driedger.

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I'm a Hydrologist and Outreach Coordinator at the USGS,

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Cascades Volcano Observatory, in Vancouver, Washington.

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I'm happy to be here today,

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recognizing that Snohomish County,

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Island County are some of my favorite parts of the world.

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So even if I can only be there virtually, that's just terrific.

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Thank you to the Sno-Isle Library system for putting this together.

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As well as Liz Westby from the USGS,

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outreach geologist, who has been working hard to assemble the series of talks.

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A few weeks ago, Heather Wright spoke to you about the Mount

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St. Helens 1980 eruption and she pretty much outlined what happened,

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and she talked about the geology then and what happened in succeeding eruptions.

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It was just great and it was really

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nice also to know she was being seen by the hometown crowd,

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being from Whidbey Island herself.

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But today, I want to talk to you about Mount St. Helens in a little bit different way.

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We're going to talk about some of the events that led up to

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the Mount St. Helens eruption and influenced our response to it,

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as well as what happened and how that changed people's lives and people's professions.

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Then we'll go on to talk about further about some of its legacies.

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I'm going to tell you some stories about

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just a small fraction of people who took part in this response.

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That's really important to say because there were literally

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probably hundreds to thousands of people who aided with the science

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and with the search and rescue and

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other emergency management functions and coordination functions, keeping people safe.

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That was all really important,

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and maybe I'm not even mentioning some of

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the most important or most valuable contributors to understanding the eruption,

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but we're going to start with a small fraction.

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There might be some surprising backstories that you may not be aware of.

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I think I have a strong appreciation for the connection between people and events maybe

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in part because my father was a history teacher and he always impressed upon us,

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as his students and his children,

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that it was really important to understand the motivations and the particulars

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of the personalities of the time as to how they predisposed what happened in history,

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and so it's important for us to examine that here to

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understand Mount St. Helens in perspective.

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With due diligence, knowing that I'd be doing

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some talks and writing a fact sheet with some other people,

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I did some interviews in 2020 and 2021,

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even in just this past week with some of the people who worked at Mount St. Helens.

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It was a good time to catch up and to ask them what they had learned

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and how Mount Helens was still influencing their profession and their career today.

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You're going to hear some of those stories later on.

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We're going to start with what happened with a little bit about people and volcanoes,

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and some important things to remember about how people experienced volcanic eruptions.

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People have lived with volcanoes for thousands of years.

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Yet the response to eruptions remains really visceral and really complex.

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For any culture, whether it be the native people here in the Pacific Northwest,

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a volcanic eruption is a really big deal,

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and it might just happen once in a generation or two.

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That memory gets passed down in an oral or written form.

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It's also just a full sensory overload.

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If you've experienced a volcanic eruption,

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you know that there's a sight, and the sound,

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and the smell, and the feel of that gritty ash in your hands,

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in your boots, in your face,

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in your lips, and eyes.

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In particular, there's something really symbolic about volcanic eruptions too,

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about the magma rising from the bowels of the earth

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and the eruption being powerful and uncontrollable.

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I think pretty often,

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it's thought in some cultures that somebody did something wrong.

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What brought this eruption on us?

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It's not a good thing.

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But I think that the same visceral reaction that was experienced

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by early humans is probably felt by 20th century humans today,

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and there's a lot of approach and avoidance about volcanic eruptions.

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We see the Cascades as these gleaming magnets that pull people to their slopes.

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There's a great little book, a little bit of an offbeat book,

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I'm not sure that I've ever actually seen it in a local bookstore,

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but it's by Alan Weltzein.

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He's a sociologist and he talks about how volcanoes are so important in forming

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the identity of a community and how

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each volcano has its tributary population that are somewhat loyal to it.

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He talks about on a more personal level how we have ascribed some of that,

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or we have appropriated some of

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that majesty from these volcanoes for our own personal selves.

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It gives us a sense of entitlement and maybe in the Northwest

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a little bit of a sense of exceptionalism as well.

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But if we're going to talk about Mount St. Helens,

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we need to go back because starting back in the 1950s,

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we could go back earlier, I suppose,

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but we'll start with USGS scientist Rocky Crandell,

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who is responsible for our understanding of the enormous magnitude of volcanic mudflows.

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I'll probably here on,

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talk about them, that's lahars,

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these big, chunky, murky, muddy, boulder-rich,

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gooey cement-like flows that advanced rapidly down a valley 30,

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40, 50 miles per hour and inundate everything in their path,

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which these are quite common we know.

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But anyway, Rocky was working on deposits.

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He had been assigned by USGS management to

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map the extent of glacial deposits in the southern Puget Sound area,

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as was his colleague Donal Mullineaux, somewhat adjacent,

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and they worked with their university colleagues in

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mapping these glacial deposits downstream of Mount Rainier.

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Here is a couple of photos of him.

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It's my right and lower left.

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Not everything was working out as was expected,

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and it seemed that instead of being on the valley sides,

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these deposits were all on the valley floor

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and it almost looked like they had flowed into place.

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Crandell was discussing this with other colleagues, including Donal Mullineaux,

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and a lightbulb went on in Crandell's head, and he said,

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he even wrote in his July 25th, 1953 field notebook,

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he had this radical idea that maybe this deposit was not glacial in origin,

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it flowed into place.

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That idea overturned the conventional wisdom,

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that this was actually a giant mudflow or a lahar that had flowed into place,

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and we know it today as the Osceola Mudflow,

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which flowed through time eventually down into the Kent-Auburn Valley.

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They published this idea,

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Crandell and Waldon published the idea in 1956.

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They were pretty proactive and very prolific with their publications.

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There's a 1967 hazard assessment and there was a '71 professional paper in it.

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1973 map, they really got into this.

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Before long, between this and some other maps,

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they were doing lots of hazard assessments.

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They were becoming known for their hazard assessments.

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Now, this was really the first geology-based hazard assessment in modern times.

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Crandell moved beyond data and hazards.

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This is really important because some of you might be

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familiar with how staid a government publication can be,

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such as a USGS professional paper,

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and they were very set and very conservative and rigid guidelines on what you can say,

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and how you say it, and how you present it.

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But he really moved beyond the data and even talking

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about hazards and he talked about some recommendations for mitigation.

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Then he went up to the National Park Service managers and said,

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"You have a problem here.

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You have a campground that's right in harm's way and you have

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the whole Longmire administrative facility that's really at risk from being inundated."

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He was really asking a new normal of us when he wrote these recommendations,

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to install a lahar detection system in critical valleys,

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and develop a warning and notification system to

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establish evacuation plans and make a plan to lower the lake levels behind dams,

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make a plan to restrict travel in hazardous areas.

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That was pretty radical and I think that

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not too many people saw that and took it too seriously at the time.

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Similar work was done at Mount St. Helens and meanwhile

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colleague Don Mullineaux was looking at volcanic ash layers there.

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The two of them were comparing notes.

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They were recognizing that

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some of the layers at Mount Rainier we're not settling right,

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and comparing notes, they realized that some of the ash layers at Mount Rainier were from

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Mount St. Helens and they began to spend a little more time working at Mount St. Helens.

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They were actually working simultaneously on these.

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They did a lot of work and came up with an amazingly prescient statement.

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They wrote a hazards assessment,

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and in February of 1975,

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they made this bold statement.

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Even if there hadn't been an eruption,

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this might have been the volcanic event of the century that this bold statement was made.

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That Mount St. Helens,

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although long dormant since 1857, little known,

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but prominent on the horizon in southwest Washington,

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will erupt again before the end of the century.

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That was just an amazing statement for them to make in 1975,

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that was February of 1975.

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They really didn't have any other volcanic activity

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in the Cascades to make them think about it.

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But it's amazing the difference that a month can make.

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In March of 1975,

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around three weeks later,

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geothermal output at Sherman crater at Mount Baker rose an order of

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magnitude and this increase in steam was obvious.

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A cauldron in Sherman Crater was enlarged.

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There was lots of gas release but to the chagrin of Steve Malone,

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there was no seismicity; he's a seismologist.

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But it was a fascinating place,

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and I like to think of

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that 1975 Mount Baker event as

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a little bit of a dress rehearsal for what happened in 1980.

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Little did they know, right?

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That there was going to be a performance,

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a chance to prove themselves.

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This was the first USGS response to heightened volcanic activity in the

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contiguous US since Mount Lassen in 1917.

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Also a real opportunity for scientists to come in, test their equipment,

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set it up, to think about what might happen and look at the possibilities.

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For myself, I wasn't working for USGS at the time,

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but our supervisor, Mark Meier in the USGS glaciology office in Tacoma was among that group.

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It just seemed like it was the glaciologists and the seismologist and the geologists all

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working together and contributing ideas and it was a great opportunity for them to bond.

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They also got a taste of what it was like to tell officials that an area,

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a very popular recreation area, needed to be closed.

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I think of that as a get ready.

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But then we move down to the Caribbean as another influence on the 1980 response.

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That was the events of Guadeloupe in 1976.

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It seems that this was a great opportunity for scientists around the world.

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Unfortunately, to be exposed to witness

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and pretty ineffective coordination in communication.

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It's not just my opinion,

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I wasn't even paying attention at the time,

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I was celebrating the bicentennial of the United States as

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probably you were as well if you're my age.

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But anyway, this volcano was being studied by multiple groups of scientists.

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There was minimal pre-eruption monitoring,

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just a really slow build-up of activity.

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There was some violence,

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people were unhappy with being kept out of the area.

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There were 20-25 scientists who were working in

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multiple teams and they were giving different scientific interpretations,

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really poor communication between these working scientists.

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They gave conflicting reports to the public officials.

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There was unlimited access to journalists.

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For the journalist they'd hear one thing and then another,

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and there was a controversial evacuation of about 77,000 people.

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Maybe by some people considered to be erroneous,

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because there was a misinterpretation of whether there was glass in the lava,

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but with further investigation and years later,

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maybe that was a warranted activity.

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With Guadeloupe, that event actually ended up in a huge investigation

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with scientists pointing fingers at

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each other and an outside group coming into see what had gone wrong.

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They said, "You really need more coordination and

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better communication among yourselves and with officials in the news media."

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We move forward in 1979,

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as the lead up to Mount St. Helens.

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There was a more apparent threat here,

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there had been an eruption in 1971.

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There was better coordination.

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It was actually a successful evacuation of several thousand people.

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Here we went to the other extreme,

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I guess one could think of it as the mama bear, the papa bear.

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We're still looking for just the right size chair for that medium size bear.

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Here they really overly controlled,

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at least in some opinions,

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but overly control the news media communication.

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This 1971 eruption had

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really prepped the population as to what a volcanic eruption could be like.

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There were some pre-eruption monitoring.

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There's this rapid build-up of activity and scientists' work.

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But the scientists all worked as one group,

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and so they gained consensus among

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all the different specialists as to what

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might happen and they gave one interpretation to the officials.

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It was very straightforward.

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There was good communication between the scientists and the authorities.

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There was a single stream of information and there was

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no access to the hazard zone and no access to the scientists.

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The news media didn't like this very much,

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in fact, one person threatened to sue,

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one reporter threatened to sue,

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and the governor summarily deported him.

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Maybe that's not quite what we need either at our next eruption.

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But get set.

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Let's move forward, in 1980,

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Mount Helens was a favorite place for recreation,

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the public and officials didn't really recognized the hazard.

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Perhaps they enjoyed it where because of that.

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The calls of Crandell and Mullineaux had not really been heeded.

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There was a lack of manpower, as it was called in the day.

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Not a whole lot of motivation,

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not enough to change programs, and divert money.

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As so often it takes a crisis to do that.

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Here's the status of volcano response,

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the Cascade Range as we enter the 1980 eruption.

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There was no place-based volcano observatories in the Cascades at all,

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minimal communication with public officials.

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Some had been done, but not enough.

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Minimal volcano monitoring.

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We had just isolated instruments out rather than networks.

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No valid emergency plan or communication plans or USGS

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science response plans, community education experience.

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We're pretty much scientists,

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siloed into our own scientific disciplines where

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the geologists worked in their own way,

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seismologists in another, etc.

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Put yourself back in 1980,

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what were the news stories of the day?

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It seems that there was a big rescue mission for the Iran hostages that had gone awry.

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It was actually a terrible tragedy.

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We had the Mariel boatlift,

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an influx of Cuban refugees that was out of control.

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All that season people were concerned with who had shot JR

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on the big Dallas TV program.

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With that background and when it's often dark days,

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rainy days as we're experiencing for some of this March 2021,

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the news that Mount St. Helens was doing something interesting

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was a welcome diversion and an exciting new drama.

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So Go.

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The first indication that there was something going on at Mount

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St. Helens was noticed by the Pacific Northwest Seismic Network.

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Steve Malone talks about how one of his workers saw something unusual and they just said,

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"Okay, it's one more earthquake to locate, it's probably nothing."

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Then finally they located it and realized it was under Mount St. Helens.

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Then a flurry of earthquakes continued and they began to

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realize that this might be something more than they had thought.

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Within a period of 24,

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36, 48, 72 hours,

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they went from no activity to major activity to

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putting instruments on Mount St. Helens and contacting all these different groups.

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I remember being in the Tacoma office,

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where we actually had a view of Mount St. Helens on the eighth floor

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of what was in the Pacific Bank building I believe.

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Steve Malone called our boss Mark Meier and said, "Guess what?

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We have these earthquakes."

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We all discussed it in the hallway and decided that probably nothing would happen.

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But anyway, Steve did contact people at

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the USGS and he talked to Don Mullineaux and eventually to Rocky Crandell.

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The earthquakes continued but the scientists were in Denver.

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They didn't have a full sense of what was happening there.

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It wasn't like there was email or Internet where

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they could trade a lot of data at the time.

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They were sedimentologists, they were people who looked at layers of rocky debris.

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I mean, they didn't use rock hammers, they use shovels for their work.

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They were unfamiliar with seismology and what this might mean.

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Steve told me that he talked to

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Don Mullineaux who was a very good hand holder, he is a geologist.

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He said, "Okay, I'm going to help you with this.

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I'm going to come out and work with you on this."

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I'm told that there was another plea too when it was said by the people in

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USGS in Denver that the seismologists were going bananas.

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Clearly something big was happening.

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Well, Don Mullineaux came out,

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eventually Rocky Crandell as well

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and there was just an onslaught of news media that met them.

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It was absolutely overwhelming.

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Fortunately, the Forest Service used an incident command structure for

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forest fire response and that framework worked really well at least on a

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local or some regional level for a volcanic eruption also.

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That included having a joint information center

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where they could all talk within their own lane of information,

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so that was greatly helpful.

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Before all this was done,

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the Mount St. Helens response would be

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the biggest news story that the US Geological Survey ever covered.

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Let's go to look a few personalities as we're moving towards

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the big catastrophic event on May 18th.

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USGS scientist David Johnston had had

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some harrowing experiences at Augustine volcano in Alaska in the year previous.

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When he came to the region,

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he was actually in the Pacific Northwest for

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a scientific meeting and he came with his conference clothes,

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wasn't really prepared to go out in the field.

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But when all this activity began at Mount St. Helens,

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he went to Steve Malone and said,

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"Steve, what can I do?"

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Steve told him that he could watch the seismometers.

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Finally, after a few days he said,

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"All these news people are just over the top and taking my science time.

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Could you please go down to Mount St. Helens and talk to people there.

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Talk to the news media there."

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Dave was happy to do that and feeling very

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powerfully motivated because of what he had experienced in Alaska.

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A young news reporter,

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Jeff Renner from KING5 TV in Seattle,

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was one of the people who frequently talked to David.

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Going back to Mount Baker, David Johnston and Jeff Renner

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actually came from similar parts of the country just not too far apart,

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Jeff from Wisconsin and David from Northern Illinois,

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they understood each other.

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At Mount Baker, Jeff had expressed

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a lot of interests in volcanoes for his volcano stories

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and Dave gave him advice on what to read and

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told him all about the different kinds of hazards that could be experienced.

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They build up a real rapport and I think that's a lesson learned that how

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valuable it is to train the news media who are going to have to

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stand in and speak for you on future occasions.

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David was a gas geochemist,

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you can see him using a COSPEC to measure gases.

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Lots of things happened, Heather went over a lot of the physical things that happened,

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but you know that the magma was intruding into the volcano,

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a bulge of the north side was moving outward

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and destabilizing the slopes and people were trying to

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understand what might happen knowing that

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there had been some collapses at Mount St. Helens before,

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but this, nobody was really sure of it,

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nobody had an idea of the energetics of this.

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I want to remind people when it is asked,

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why couldn't people predict what would happen?

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Imagine the state of the science back at that time where there had been

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practically nobody who had experienced

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an explosive eruption within the US Geological Survey.

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Only the very fluid basaltic eruptions in Hawaii,

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so there was just not a lot of experience for this.

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People worked really hard,

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there were lots of putting heads together to understand what might occur.

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But there we are on May 18th, 1980 at 8:32 in the morning,

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the north side of the mountain collapsed.

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We had a blast move over it and beyond it and faster than that landslide.

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We had a large plume go into the sky.

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As you see here in this photograph by Bob Krimmel,

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the glaciologist who was used to taking pictures of glaciers,

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but did well here with taking pictures of volcanic eruptions as well.

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It was an amazing personal and cultural seismic shift.

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This was the fulcrum in a lot of people's life stories.

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What was it like before?

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Where was I when this happened?

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How did I think before about these Cascade volcanoes?

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Do I still see them as benign and recreational opportunity locations,

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or do I see them as something different?

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It's been reported that a lot of people felt depression,

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a sense of real uneasiness,

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and being that we were still within a Cold War,

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there was a threat of a bomb being dropped.

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Some people told me that they thought maybe when they heard the boom,

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boom, boom, that maybe the bomb had been dropped.

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There's a lot of uneasiness and people feeling absolutely astonished and overwhelmed.

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I think it's summarized well in this newspaper,

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special edition piece from May 25th.

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"Until two months ago,

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in the memory of every living person at Mount St. Helens,

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shimmering across Spirit Lake stood as a ready symbol of

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benign and beautiful nature in the Pacific Northwest.

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Now the bomb mountain,

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never will symbolize that again to

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those who have seen the destruction that has been wrought,

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or to the thousands whose lives have been

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wrenched that bright and peaceful deceptive Sunday morning of May 18th, 1980."

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Now, among many people,

00:27:20.475 --> 00:27:24.675
emergency managers and scientists and the public,

00:27:24.675 --> 00:27:30.719
the mood - amazement, shock,

00:27:30.719 --> 00:27:34.605
sadness, that there was much work to be done.

00:27:34.605 --> 00:27:38.560
We knew that there were more eruptions to come.

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At that time the Forest Service was running flights 24 hours a day over the volcano.

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I will tell you later about my experience and what motivated

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me to work with volcanoes further in USGS.

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But anyway, I'll just say I had a chance to fly in one of those night flights.

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It was a very eerie experience,

00:28:06.405 --> 00:28:09.870
you couldn't recognize any part of the terrain even though I

00:28:09.870 --> 00:28:14.110
was somewhat familiar with the northern side of the mountain.

00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:19.260
But we knew we had to get back to work and that wasn't easy.

00:28:19.260 --> 00:28:24.560
I can tell you it was not an easy place to work either because dust - volcanic ash was

00:28:24.560 --> 00:28:26.840
everywhere and volcanic ash of course is

00:28:26.840 --> 00:28:31.310
just these tiny little fragments of broken volcanic rock.

00:28:31.310 --> 00:28:34.920
It's very abrasive and it gets

00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.560
into all your facial parts

00:28:37.560 --> 00:28:40.740
and your boots and it destroys your camera and your eyeglasses.

00:28:40.740 --> 00:28:46.320
It was also just very disorienting to work there where this had changed.

00:28:46.320 --> 00:28:50.250
You were still so much in awe let alone having to

00:28:50.250 --> 00:28:52.290
do the scientific work but we had to move on and we

00:28:52.290 --> 00:28:54.855
had just lost a colleague David Johnston,

00:28:54.855 --> 00:29:01.980
when the blast overtook him at a place called Coldwater II.

00:29:01.980 --> 00:29:05.010
Mount St. Helens became somewhat of

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a master teacher and an ideal lab for volcano studies.

00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:18.720
Really, I put this in the past tense but monitoring the volcano and analysis of

00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.740
deposits has led to so many new insights that were

00:29:22.740 --> 00:29:28.170
applicable in the Cascades and at volcanoes around the world.

00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:35.985
The USGS founded the Cascades Volcano Observatory in 1982.

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We're still in Vancouver at a different location than originally.

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We have 80 some employees there now working on the Cascade Range.

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Necessity has bred much cross-pollination among these scientific disciplines.

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We had people like the stream gager on the left and seismologist

00:29:57.945 --> 00:30:02.475
trying to understand their respective cultures and terminology.

00:30:02.475 --> 00:30:08.710
We had people like Rick Hoblitt here in the lower left-hand corner,

00:30:09.350 --> 00:30:12.344
and a picture by Bill Rose actually,

00:30:12.344 --> 00:30:16.545
Michigan Tech, they're all looking at a pyroclastic flow there.

00:30:16.545 --> 00:30:19.545
Then people who were doing surveying,

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so they all had come to an understanding that all of them had something to give to the

00:30:26.175 --> 00:30:29.820
other to put the entire three-dimensional puzzle

00:30:29.820 --> 00:30:32.685
together of the story of Mount St. Helens,

00:30:32.685 --> 00:30:36.460
and to understand what was going to happen next.

00:30:38.060 --> 00:30:44.175
Local residents and the world gained a big profound appreciation for

00:30:44.175 --> 00:30:52.185
the destructive power of volcanoes as seen in this destroyed bridge over the Toutle River.

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Volcanic ash is recognized as a long-term hazard on the ground and to aviation.

00:31:00.995 --> 00:31:03.770
The first ever health studies of it began in

00:31:03.770 --> 00:31:07.090
eastern Washington and later expanded worldwide.

00:31:07.090 --> 00:31:12.630
Dredging the sediment from downstream rivers continues intermittently even today.

00:31:12.630 --> 00:31:16.515
Of course the big question is; what do we do with all that volcanic ash?

00:31:16.515 --> 00:31:20.850
Those of us in southwest Washington are used to looking at big piles of ash along

00:31:20.850 --> 00:31:25.620
I-5 as well as recognizing that the foundation of the Three Rivers Mall in Longview,

00:31:25.620 --> 00:31:28.755
and other areas are built up from that ash.

00:31:28.755 --> 00:31:33.150
The same thing happened in eastern Washington where volcanic ash was

00:31:33.150 --> 00:31:38.160
cleaned up and it was buried basically,

00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:46.170
put into excess wetlands and covered with soil and made into parks and ballfields.

00:31:46.170 --> 00:31:50.310
I should mention that on the right there you see the picture of the dredging,

00:31:50.310 --> 00:31:52.965
they're actually dredging lahar sediment.

00:31:52.965 --> 00:31:58.050
Remember that the big lahars came downstream on that day,

00:31:58.050 --> 00:32:02.590
as well as there being a directed blast and a devastated area.

00:32:03.710 --> 00:32:08.010
The lahars leave a lot of sediment behind,

00:32:08.010 --> 00:32:11.400
it fills the channels and encourages flooding,

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:15.239
it pushes the water out over the landscape,

00:32:15.239 --> 00:32:17.700
and it fills in shipping channels,

00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:20.715
so it's very important to keep an area dredged.

00:32:20.715 --> 00:32:27.820
Studies at Mount St. Helens and all the Cascade volcanoes led to a lot of new insights.

00:32:30.130 --> 00:32:34.010
People basically fanned out to all the Cascade volcanoes,

00:32:34.010 --> 00:32:36.785
and that work is still going on today actually.

00:32:36.785 --> 00:32:43.395
They mapped the rocky deposits and tried to understand like reading a book,

00:32:43.395 --> 00:32:45.450
looking at all the different layers,

00:32:45.450 --> 00:32:48.600
the different chapters of this volcano's history.

00:32:48.600 --> 00:32:49.995
How explosive is it?

00:32:49.995 --> 00:32:51.420
How often does it erupt?

00:32:51.420 --> 00:32:53.430
When did it most recently erupt?

00:32:53.430 --> 00:32:57.525
Where might be the hazardous areas in the future?

00:32:57.525 --> 00:33:01.900
Then we produced a generation of hazard assessments.

00:33:01.940 --> 00:33:06.600
A lot of new ideas and new technologies sparked

00:33:06.600 --> 00:33:11.310
the real revolution in volcano monitoring instrumentation,

00:33:11.310 --> 00:33:16.120
and that has really aided our ability to provide volcano warnings.

00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:21.705
One of the legacies of the 1980 eruptions is that,

00:33:21.705 --> 00:33:24.930
maybe even a few people who are even listening today

00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:31.230
were scientists or field assistants out there doing deformation studies,

00:33:31.230 --> 00:33:38.550
measuring the width of cracks to see how much the crater floor was deforming,

00:33:38.550 --> 00:33:42.760
and other people who were looking at the earthquakes.

00:33:44.390 --> 00:33:50.280
Using seismic information, earthquake information,

00:33:50.280 --> 00:33:55.230
and deformation information, we were actually able to

00:33:55.230 --> 00:34:01.710
predict some of the smaller explosions that happened after the big event.

00:34:01.710 --> 00:34:07.380
Steve Malone tells a pretty compelling story about the first time we had a big eruption,

00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:10.695
I guess it might have been the May 25th eruption,

00:34:10.695 --> 00:34:14.730
where they saw these little extra wiggles on

00:34:14.730 --> 00:34:19.920
the recorders, just before the explosion happened.

00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:23.505
Then later on, I think it was June 12th,

00:34:23.505 --> 00:34:25.965
he's like, "There are those wiggles again.

00:34:25.965 --> 00:34:29.925
I wonder if they really mean something," another explosion.

00:34:29.925 --> 00:34:32.340
Then on July 22nd,

00:34:32.340 --> 00:34:36.405
he talks about how everybody was out on the field working at the volcano,

00:34:36.405 --> 00:34:40.080
but this time he called the new proto-CVO and said,

00:34:40.080 --> 00:34:41.190
"It's going to happen,

00:34:41.190 --> 00:34:43.140
we're going to have an event."

00:34:43.140 --> 00:34:45.050
It's really best told by him.

00:34:45.050 --> 00:34:55.250
But anyway, that's the evolution of how we learn and apply information that we learn.

00:34:55.250 --> 00:35:02.360
Now understanding volcano behaviors led to new types of analysis,

00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:10.350
and we are able to take this information.

00:35:10.350 --> 00:35:16.874
When we see that there's a threatening volcano that's perhaps going to awaken,

00:35:16.874 --> 00:35:24.180
for example on the left with Larry Mastin's Ash 3D model, he's able to input,

00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:27.750
NOAA weather data and show if a volcanic eruption

00:35:27.750 --> 00:35:32.535
happened at that time where the ash would fall and approximately how much.

00:35:32.535 --> 00:35:36.345
Then as Heather Wright showed during the last geology talk,

00:35:36.345 --> 00:35:38.850
we make event trees where we say,

00:35:38.850 --> 00:35:42.945
"If this happens then we have this much chance of

00:35:42.945 --> 00:35:47.970
this next behavior happening as well," and in

00:35:47.970 --> 00:35:49.860
that way we're able to have

00:35:49.860 --> 00:35:54.015
a more quantitative assessment of what might happen in the future.

00:35:54.015 --> 00:35:57.630
Of course there were people out there studying the ecology as well,

00:35:57.630 --> 00:36:00.180
this barren landscape has quickly transformed with

00:36:00.180 --> 00:36:04.080
this wonderful mosaic of new and thriving plants.

00:36:04.080 --> 00:36:08.685
Mount St. Helens has spread its new generation of volcanologists.

00:36:08.685 --> 00:36:11.730
They were about, I think it was

00:36:11.730 --> 00:36:19.335
around 500 non-USGS scientists who came and worked at Mount St. Helens,

00:36:19.335 --> 00:36:24.520
From, I think 70 different locations in the US and around the world,

00:36:25.670 --> 00:36:30.160
I guess especially after the 1980 events.

00:36:30.260 --> 00:36:34.335
Now that the Volcano Disaster Assistance Program,

00:36:34.335 --> 00:36:40.590
which was formed back in the 1990s,

00:36:40.590 --> 00:36:46.320
it's been to around 70 different crises worldwide and really strengthened

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:53.350
the volcanic response in a dozen of different nations, I think I'd say.

00:36:53.570 --> 00:36:56.550
They don't go in and take over,

00:36:56.550 --> 00:37:02.250
but they help the people and they're able to get some equipment for them.

00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:05.700
It is run in cooperation with USAID,

00:37:05.700 --> 00:37:09.120
the Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance and it's

00:37:09.120 --> 00:37:14.010
a wonderful multi-agency program that has saved a lot of lives.

00:37:14.010 --> 00:37:16.710
Actually with our people going to volcanoes around the world,

00:37:16.710 --> 00:37:19.320
they are able to bring those new skills and

00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:23.535
the experience home to the US and make us a stronger program as well.

00:37:23.535 --> 00:37:26.070
Now there are many different trainings that happen,

00:37:26.070 --> 00:37:27.225
it's not uncommon at

00:37:27.225 --> 00:37:32.340
USGS Cascades Volcano Observatory to see people coming from other nations,

00:37:32.340 --> 00:37:35.625
building equipment, learning how it works.

00:37:35.625 --> 00:37:39.180
There is a program to educate people,

00:37:39.180 --> 00:37:44.010
young volcanologist CSAV program through University of Hawaii,

00:37:44.010 --> 00:37:50.130
USGS VDAP, so it's been a terrific experience.

00:37:50.130 --> 00:37:54.765
In addition to that, between 2013 and the present,

00:37:54.765 --> 00:37:57.930
the USGS VDAP has sponsored a series of

00:37:57.930 --> 00:38:02.670
binational exchanges and I think there have been roughly maybe 13,

00:38:02.670 --> 00:38:03.915
14 of them by now.

00:38:03.915 --> 00:38:11.640
We had this gap between past and future,

00:38:11.640 --> 00:38:13.695
I guess with the COVID happening.

00:38:13.695 --> 00:38:22.680
But this has been an extremely useful program where as scientists we get to travel,

00:38:22.680 --> 00:38:26.595
but the public officials who do the policy-making and make decisions,

00:38:26.595 --> 00:38:30.450
being motivated and inspired to prepare their populations around

00:38:30.450 --> 00:38:34.905
Glacier Peak and Mount Rainier and Baker and St. Helens and on,

00:38:34.905 --> 00:38:39.780
they don't have a chance to go find out what a volcanic eruption is really about

00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:45.060
because in the Cascades they are low-frequency but they are high consequence.

00:38:45.060 --> 00:38:47.610
We have taken them to Colombia,

00:38:47.610 --> 00:38:51.240
to Ecuador on one occasion, most of them to Colombia,

00:38:51.240 --> 00:38:56.730
and we have public officials like I see Lorraine Churchill there in the center picture,

00:38:56.730 --> 00:39:03.915
meeting with a group of students during a student outreach event in Colombia.

00:39:03.915 --> 00:39:05.550
Then I see people from

00:39:05.550 --> 00:39:10.470
Washington Emergency Management Division and different county governments as well.

00:39:10.470 --> 00:39:15.960
Brian from Washington State Emergency Management Division and Corina from

00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:23.770
the State Geological Survey and Scott Beason from Mount Rainier National Park.

00:39:25.370 --> 00:39:31.580
It's just been tremendous to see how they have become motivated,

00:39:31.580 --> 00:39:33.860
they become educated about volcanoes and

00:39:33.860 --> 00:39:37.475
what eruptions could mean for the Cascade Range.

00:39:37.475 --> 00:39:42.050
I want to mention also that in 2018 we

00:39:42.050 --> 00:39:51.405
brought Ecuadorians and Colombians

00:39:51.405 --> 00:39:55.245
to the Skagit River area,

00:39:55.245 --> 00:39:58.425
Darrington, Snohomish County in general.

00:39:58.425 --> 00:40:04.365
Jason Biermann, Emergency Manager for Snohomish County

00:40:04.365 --> 00:40:10.745
gave them a wonderful explanation of what the response was like at the Oso landslide.

00:40:10.745 --> 00:40:15.510
The Colombians, Ecuadorians who had experienced lahars had said,

00:40:15.510 --> 00:40:18.330
"That it is so similar to what we've experienced also,

00:40:18.330 --> 00:40:20.490
and we need to learn together about how we can most

00:40:20.490 --> 00:40:24.060
effectively deal with landslides that turn into

00:40:24.060 --> 00:40:27.210
these big lahar-like gooey masses

00:40:27.210 --> 00:40:31.950
and entrap a lot of people, so it's been a very profitable program.

00:40:31.950 --> 00:40:35.835
But not only that, now as opposed to before

00:40:35.835 --> 00:40:39.915
when we had very limited contact with emergency managers,

00:40:39.915 --> 00:40:43.815
we now have these interagency volcano hazard working groups

00:40:43.815 --> 00:40:47.025
that were developed back in the 1980s,

00:40:47.025 --> 00:40:49.860
as soon as people could get away from Mount St. Helens

00:40:49.860 --> 00:40:54.029
and start looking at their own home areas,

00:40:54.029 --> 00:41:00.105
starting with Mount Rainier emergency manager, Bill Lokey.

00:41:00.105 --> 00:41:07.170
He showed us the value of all working together and creating a coordination plan.

00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:09.510
As early as 1988,

00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:14.880
he had created a plan with other public officials and some scientists from USGS.

00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:20.850
He actually had a little exercise practicing an eruption of Mount Rainier.

00:41:20.850 --> 00:41:22.890
Everyone at the end got a certificate,

00:41:22.890 --> 00:41:26.625
I survived the 1980 eruption of Mount Rainier.

00:41:26.625 --> 00:41:28.875
What you're seeing in the picture here,

00:41:28.875 --> 00:41:31.410
I guess down at the bottom and I see Patrick Pringle there,

00:41:31.410 --> 00:41:38.550
some of you may know Cynthia Gardner and emergency managers from Whatcom,

00:41:38.550 --> 00:41:42.250
Skagit and Snohomish counties.

00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:46.520
Everyone's working together to get products put in

00:41:46.520 --> 00:41:51.095
place so that they can help educate their communities.

00:41:51.095 --> 00:41:53.300
In the top photo,

00:41:53.300 --> 00:42:01.145
we have Kirstin Hofmann in the city of Puyallup and a number of people

00:42:01.145 --> 00:42:10.280
working together during a school lahar drill in Puyallup,

00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.385
I guess that was 2019.

00:42:13.385 --> 00:42:17.435
At that time they were about 8,000 school students who

00:42:17.435 --> 00:42:22.070
practiced evacuation in case a lahar descends the Puyallup valley.

00:42:22.070 --> 00:42:25.535
Of course, we have the Orting School District that has been

00:42:25.535 --> 00:42:29.970
practicing lahar evacuation for many years.

00:42:31.720 --> 00:42:36.155
We have John Ewert here and we have Seth Moran,

00:42:36.155 --> 00:42:40.024
they were both our previous scientists

00:42:40.024 --> 00:42:42.965
in charge and I just want to say it's been terrific

00:42:42.965 --> 00:42:46.100
for us to have a lot of support from management

00:42:46.100 --> 00:42:50.765
to go beyond the science and make sure that our science is applied.

00:42:50.765 --> 00:42:55.085
Scientists, officials, members of the public,

00:42:55.085 --> 00:42:58.530
we've all been working together.

00:42:58.690 --> 00:43:02.480
It all began in the 1980s with Mount St. Helens increasing

00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.370
the research about eruption histories and the assembly of hazard assessments,

00:43:07.370 --> 00:43:12.740
and then going out and showing populations that they had a problem in their backyard,

00:43:12.740 --> 00:43:14.120
we should talk about this.

00:43:14.120 --> 00:43:16.565
Beginning of volcano hazard work groups.

00:43:16.565 --> 00:43:22.115
There's just an ongoing co-development of volcano coordination plans now,

00:43:22.115 --> 00:43:25.895
each one eventually being tested and revised.

00:43:25.895 --> 00:43:28.265
It's just a never-ending process.

00:43:28.265 --> 00:43:33.305
There's an ongoing development of volcano hazards education products,

00:43:33.305 --> 00:43:36.695
and updating, exercising of plans,

00:43:36.695 --> 00:43:38.750
on and on it goes.

00:43:38.750 --> 00:43:43.310
There's also a USGS alert notification system that is described on our website.

00:43:43.310 --> 00:43:45.245
You'll get the URL at the end.

00:43:45.245 --> 00:43:48.755
But this is something that we were lacking in 1980,

00:43:48.755 --> 00:43:53.795
but it does explain the different levels so that you have something objective

00:43:53.795 --> 00:43:59.975
to look at when we talk about what might happen at a volcano.

00:43:59.975 --> 00:44:07.535
Now, all that work just helped us tremendously in 2004-2008 eruption of Mount St. Helens.

00:44:07.535 --> 00:44:09.830
In fact, we had

00:44:09.830 --> 00:44:15.530
the Mount Baker Glacier Peak work group getting ready for a big exercise of

00:44:15.530 --> 00:44:23.480
the plan that we wanted to test in late September 2004.

00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.110
We were all set to go, but instead,

00:44:27.110 --> 00:44:31.460
Mount St. Helens reawakened with

00:44:31.460 --> 00:44:35.720
these smaller eruptions and there you see the explosive beginning of it.

00:44:35.720 --> 00:44:37.340
It turned into a dome building.

00:44:37.340 --> 00:44:41.210
Relatively mild, gentle, and low-energy eruption.

00:44:41.210 --> 00:44:45.380
But that event, it was just amazing

00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:49.670
because all the people from Baker and with the Glacier Peak area,

00:44:49.670 --> 00:44:51.140
came and they helped us,

00:44:51.140 --> 00:44:53.570
as well as with people from Mount Rainier,

00:44:53.570 --> 00:44:57.920
they all came and helped us with that response and it made it much easier.

00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:02.460
We got to respond to a real volcanic eruption rather than just playing one.

00:45:03.820 --> 00:45:05.900
I should say in addition,

00:45:05.900 --> 00:45:09.155
a lot of people in many agencies are involved,

00:45:09.155 --> 00:45:15.785
the policymakers, there are teacher workshops,

00:45:15.785 --> 00:45:17.899
and we work a lot with the news media,

00:45:17.899 --> 00:45:20.390
public at risk, park staff.

00:45:20.390 --> 00:45:25.040
We try to get everyone up to speed about what these volcano issues are.

00:45:25.040 --> 00:45:28.880
The fact that these are what we call active volcanoes,

00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.120
they're not erupting, but they are active because they have

00:45:32.120 --> 00:45:37.085
all the processes going on inside and underneath that lead to an eruption.

00:45:37.085 --> 00:45:40.625
There's a lot of snow and ice on them that when melted can cause lahars.

00:45:40.625 --> 00:45:43.670
There's potential for ash to the east.

00:45:43.670 --> 00:45:47.360
This is actually all around the volcano,

00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.030
but maybe most often to the east.

00:45:50.030 --> 00:45:54.560
This is like a never-ending job for us to work with everybody,

00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:57.380
especially with lots of changes in personnel.

00:45:57.380 --> 00:46:02.585
I want to mention also that with the teacher workshop at Mount Rainier for many years,

00:46:02.585 --> 00:46:06.910
for some reason, we had a lot of Whidbey Island teachers.

00:46:06.910 --> 00:46:07.930
I think we probably had

00:46:07.930 --> 00:46:13.720
a dozen Whidbey Island science teachers come to learn about hazards at Mount Rainier.

00:46:13.720 --> 00:46:18.455
We expanded that information to the Cascades also.

00:46:18.455 --> 00:46:24.050
Some of those responders of 1980 continue to train and support the younger generation.

00:46:24.050 --> 00:46:29.290
You can see Patrick Pringle, who eventually left USGS,

00:46:29.290 --> 00:46:32.830
and went on to work with the State Geological Survey,

00:46:32.830 --> 00:46:38.695
and then to become an award-winning teacher down at Centralia Community College,

00:46:38.695 --> 00:46:43.040
and Dan Miller who was a colleague with Rocky

00:46:43.040 --> 00:46:48.140
Crandell who later took over VDAP and responded to many foreign eruptions.

00:46:48.140 --> 00:46:52.760
Then Rocky Crandell on the right and probably one of Rocky's

00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:58.290
last visits to the field looking at the lahar deposits in the Puyallup River valley.

00:46:58.720 --> 00:47:02.750
I told you that I interviewed some people and asked them some questions,

00:47:02.750 --> 00:47:05.660
and we've got a few quotes from them, for example,

00:47:05.660 --> 00:47:09.170
a retired UW seismologist Steve Malone said,

00:47:09.170 --> 00:47:14.180
"Mount St. Helens forced the acceleration of new equipment use and analysis".

00:47:14.180 --> 00:47:17.480
He has a very in-depth and compelling story to tell

00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.100
about putting a new system online on March 1st that would telemeter data,

00:47:22.100 --> 00:47:26.000
but they didn't have the software to do the analysis of it.

00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:29.420
They had to still go back to the volcano and you rely on

00:47:29.420 --> 00:47:33.260
putting in recorders that they had to go back and visit to retrieve the data.

00:47:33.260 --> 00:47:36.095
They weren't seeing it in real-time, in other words.

00:47:36.095 --> 00:47:39.560
He mentioned that Mount St. Helens was just a career-defining moment.

00:47:39.560 --> 00:47:41.270
He'd always been interested in volcanoes,

00:47:41.270 --> 00:47:44.060
but this evermore so.

00:47:44.060 --> 00:47:46.970
He notes how we've improved the monitoring systems as

00:47:46.970 --> 00:47:49.700
a result of Mount St. Helens and how this has really

00:47:49.700 --> 00:47:56.060
accelerated our ability to do volcano seismology at volcanoes all around the world.

00:47:56.060 --> 00:47:59.510
Many groups, students, staff at

00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:05.540
the Pacific Northwest Seismic Network, USGS, university scientists,

00:48:05.540 --> 00:48:10.594
people in other nations all have worked together to improve

00:48:10.594 --> 00:48:15.485
our ability to collect the data,

00:48:15.485 --> 00:48:20.120
to analyze it, and understand its meaning.

00:48:20.120 --> 00:48:26.690
He noted that there's real value in doing exotic seismology.

00:48:26.690 --> 00:48:29.210
That is, earthquakes that are caused by things other

00:48:29.210 --> 00:48:31.970
than the normal tectonic shaking of the Earth,

00:48:31.970 --> 00:48:37.640
caused by landslides, and glacier movement, and deep tremor.

00:48:37.640 --> 00:48:39.710
Deep tremor he noted is,

00:48:39.710 --> 00:48:43.895
"That's what we're seeing with these, slow-moving earthquakes.

00:48:43.895 --> 00:48:47.060
Slow-moving quakes that we see from time to

00:48:47.060 --> 00:48:52.250
time under the Cascadia within this Cascadia Subduction Zone."

00:48:52.250 --> 00:48:57.890
This information, it's not collected just because it's interesting or fun,

00:48:57.890 --> 00:49:03.665
it's because it's really useful and leads to insights down the road.

00:49:03.665 --> 00:49:09.650
Retired Emergency Manager Bill Lokey told me that, "In emergency management,

00:49:09.650 --> 00:49:13.370
we can draw a direct line from the lessons that we learned at Mount St. Helens to

00:49:13.370 --> 00:49:17.539
our current volcanic hazard planning efforts at the other Cascade volcanoes."

00:49:17.539 --> 00:49:21.560
He noted that, "We learned the importance of monitoring volcanoes,

00:49:21.560 --> 00:49:25.564
and for scientists and everybody working together BEFORE an eruption."

00:49:25.564 --> 00:49:29.060
If you know Bill Lokey and you know how

00:49:29.060 --> 00:49:32.735
passionate he gets about talking emergency management.

00:49:32.735 --> 00:49:35.720
He kept telling me," Emergency management, it's a team sport.

00:49:35.720 --> 00:49:39.275
It's a team sport, Carolyn, got to do it all together."

00:49:39.275 --> 00:49:42.920
Mount St. Helens' response was so complex.

00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:47.600
It's been very meaningful and helpful to

00:49:47.600 --> 00:49:50.720
the profession of emergency management more broadly

00:49:50.720 --> 00:49:54.065
because it was very complex, it was long-lasting.

00:49:54.065 --> 00:49:57.740
It touched so many different professions and agencies.

00:49:57.740 --> 00:50:03.755
There was the Corps of Engineers involved in mitigation efforts, and scientists,

00:50:03.755 --> 00:50:08.540
and all different kinds of scientists actually,

00:50:08.540 --> 00:50:14.060
the Forest Service as the land managers,

00:50:14.060 --> 00:50:16.145
and Search and Rescue,

00:50:16.145 --> 00:50:18.860
and all different aspects of emergency management.

00:50:18.860 --> 00:50:22.580
A lot of what happened at Mount St. Helens has been documented in

00:50:22.580 --> 00:50:30.320
the literature of how starting from scratch,

00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:31.520
moving forward, and creating

00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:37.955
a complex and working emergency management inter-agency system.

00:50:37.955 --> 00:50:45.140
It's given us one of the examples of how an organic start can be,

00:50:45.140 --> 00:50:47.630
what it evolves to and therefore,

00:50:47.630 --> 00:50:50.780
maybe it's a good example of what's needed in the future.

00:50:50.780 --> 00:50:53.420
I like this quote by Les Nelson,

00:50:53.420 --> 00:50:56.510
the Cowlitz County Sheriff that,

00:50:56.510 --> 00:50:58.700
"The jurisdictional boundaries were no longer

00:50:58.700 --> 00:51:01.890
of mutual interest because we had mutual hazards."

00:51:01.890 --> 00:51:05.950
Retired KING-TV meteorologist, Jeff Renner,

00:51:05.950 --> 00:51:08.530
told me that Mount St.. Helens' reawakening and

00:51:08.530 --> 00:51:12.610
the ultimate eruption and the public's fascination in that ongoing story led

00:51:12.610 --> 00:51:15.790
the Northwest journalism to evolve in a way that really

00:51:15.790 --> 00:51:19.810
encouraged strong science and environmental reporting for decades to come.

00:51:19.810 --> 00:51:21.880
You might remember that there were

00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.900
FCC regulations of the time that said that you will talk about local events,

00:51:25.900 --> 00:51:31.000
and that certainly encouraged Jeff to talk about Mount St. Helens and others to talk

00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:37.255
about Northwest events and features of interests.

00:51:37.255 --> 00:51:39.490
He noted that, as journalists,

00:51:39.490 --> 00:51:43.660
they felt a really strong sense of responsibility to tell the story

00:51:43.660 --> 00:51:47.950
of the volcano accurately and in context,

00:51:47.950 --> 00:51:49.450
really understand the processes,

00:51:49.450 --> 00:51:51.235
and know what they were talking about,

00:51:51.235 --> 00:51:56.500
and to be worthy of the confidence of the scientist and our colleagues.

00:51:56.500 --> 00:52:01.300
He said that working with scientists at Mount Baker's steam events in the 1970s

00:52:01.300 --> 00:52:06.355
trained him and others how to work effectively with scientists.

00:52:06.355 --> 00:52:13.150
That gave a head start to their working with scientists in 1980.

00:52:13.150 --> 00:52:17.190
David Johnston recognized the importance of not just doing science,

00:52:17.190 --> 00:52:18.960
but of communicating to the public.

00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.905
So all those interviews done with Jeff and others were of value.

00:52:22.905 --> 00:52:27.450
Retired NOAA warning coordination meteorologists for the National Weather Service,

00:52:27.450 --> 00:52:29.060
Seattle, Ted Buehner, says,

00:52:29.060 --> 00:52:34.480
in 1980, we didn't even have a volcano code for aviators,

00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:36.880
so we just warned them about "dust" in the air.

00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.480
That's been changed. We now have a volcano code.

00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.345
The threat to flyways has been established.

00:52:43.345 --> 00:52:47.440
He notes that volcano alerts have been changed,

00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.570
the whole system has been changed so that it's a lot more effective and reaches

00:52:52.570 --> 00:52:57.955
people directly rather than having to go in some daisy chain manner of people,

00:52:57.955 --> 00:53:00.415
one person informing another.

00:53:00.415 --> 00:53:03.385
He notes also that there's a new weather station

00:53:03.385 --> 00:53:05.920
that was put in some time after the eruption,

00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.130
recognizing that they really didn't have enough weather stations in

00:53:09.130 --> 00:53:14.575
southwest Washington to predict where the ash would travel.

00:53:14.575 --> 00:53:17.845
That was a real coup to be able to get that put in.

00:53:17.845 --> 00:53:20.605
In 1982, Congress preserved

00:53:20.605 --> 00:53:24.250
a really unique landscape for the public use and future study.

00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:27.640
Susan Saul, from here in Vancouver,

00:53:27.640 --> 00:53:32.270
was part of Mount St. Helens Volcano Protective Association.

00:53:34.290 --> 00:53:37.750
The protection for the monument,

00:53:37.750 --> 00:53:40.720
through the creation of Mount St. Helens National Volcanic Monument,

00:53:40.720 --> 00:53:44.820
it was really a decades-old cause.

00:53:44.820 --> 00:53:46.515
It began in the 1930s,

00:53:46.515 --> 00:53:50.445
it was accelerated in the 1970s, and by 1980,

00:53:50.445 --> 00:53:54.000
she was leading hikes to Mount St. Helens area in

00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.525
March of 1980 so that people could get to know the area,

00:53:57.525 --> 00:54:01.510
love it, and then advocate for its protection.

00:54:01.510 --> 00:54:04.090
But it's great to have the national monument.

00:54:04.090 --> 00:54:06.655
We can build museums and do interpretation.

00:54:06.655 --> 00:54:10.930
There are fewer residents at risk having basically a park here.

00:54:10.930 --> 00:54:14.860
Now, there are many opportunities for visits and learning through the Mount St.

00:54:14.860 --> 00:54:19.089
Helens National Volcanic Monument and through the Mount St. Helens Institute,

00:54:19.089 --> 00:54:24.175
both of which I suggest you look at carefully to see the opportunities.

00:54:24.175 --> 00:54:25.450
At that time also,

00:54:25.450 --> 00:54:31.000
it has to be remembered that there were new ways of doing interpretation,

00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.790
and so many young people came to Mount St. Helens

00:54:33.790 --> 00:54:37.375
and there were very innovative exhibits that were put in there.

00:54:37.375 --> 00:54:39.685
Now I want to tell you, briefly,

00:54:39.685 --> 00:54:43.165
in a few slides, about what has motivated me.

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I had been working in a USGS glaciology office and I made a switch,

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came to CVO at one point.

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But what motivated that,

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and probably was the events of May 17th and 18th of 1980,

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and where I was aiding colleague, Mindy Brugman,

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who is now a meteorologist in Canada.

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There she is. She was doing a project on Mount St. Helens looking

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at the movement of the Shoestring Glacier.

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She asked for my help, I went down with her on the 17th,

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never guessing what it would lead to.

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I thought I was in for a day of fieldwork and surveying.

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But first, we went to Coldwater II.

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We went to Timberline and we went to Coldwater II.

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Here's Mindy looking at a camera that was set up there.

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This is the afternoon of May 17th.

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Of course, I had to look at the camera as well, time-lapse camera.

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Harry Glicken was there,

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he was directing the volcano from the director's chair.

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I think the mood was fairly light there.

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Mindy here examining the Laser Ranger.

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This is the device that she had brought down from

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the glaciology office where we needed it to make very precise measurements of glaciers,

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but it was thought that it would be helpful here as well, and it was.

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She showed how it should be used.

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David Johnston was catching up on some field notes at Coldwater II.

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David kept saying, "You know it's not really safe to be here.

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I know you want to stay here and get a helicopter

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over to the Shoestring Glacier the next day,

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but I think that you should go home and come

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back the next day," which was not what we wanted to hear.

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But we heeded his advice and we left.

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Here's one of the last shots of Mount St. Helens intact,

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about nine o'clock the night before on May 17th, 1980.

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That's our 504, as it used to be.

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The next morning Mindy and I attended a Sunday morning meeting,

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and at the little proto-observatory and then drove up I-5.

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Dan Miller was a mile or so ahead of us in his own vehicle headed for Mount St. Helens,

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and Mindy and I were behind him,

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and we watched in fascination.

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I can't say it was really horror at that point because it took a long time for

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the notion to set in that we might be losing some people with what was occurring.

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But we saw a large cloud form on the north side of the volcano,

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and it kept on expanding northward and going over the hills to the north.

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Then we watched the large plume form at the top of the volcano.

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We were stunned with what was happening,

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but we quickly headed back to the volcano observatory and

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began working with the news media where it was just lots of chaos.

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Yes, it is at the beginning of about any serious crisis,

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people not really knowing exactly what's going on.

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Dan Miller was getting reports from the field and he was writing them down,

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and Mindy and I were writing them down

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and passing them on to other members of the news media who called.

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A telephone was the only mechanism for making contact at the time.

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It was all very sobering.

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We derived a lot of energy from knowing that we just needed to push forward and,

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I guess, we were on adrenaline.

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It was one of those no-food days.

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Everyone kept saying this guy, Richard Fiske,

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is going to tell us how to do new news media correctly because he was

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at Guadeloupe and he was at St. Vincent and he's seen the two extremes.

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So we hope we were doing this right,

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and he's going to write a paper about it,

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which he eventually did.

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Here you see some books.

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There's a lot of pensive moods in those next few days working in that little observatory.

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There's Don Swanson and Richard Waitt who wrote the eyewitness account book.

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I'm not sure who this gentleman is.

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Keith Stoffel, who was with his wife in a plane ever Mount St. Helens when it erupted.

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I was living in Tacoma,

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living on Vashon Island,

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driving home up I-5 and watching the truckers taking things into their own hands,

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and they kept the traffic moving really slowly.

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They moved at a very slow pace,

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a few miles an hour,

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and nobody could go faster than them because, if they did,

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they would whip up a lot of ash,

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as you see in the picture on the right.

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That little car, little government Valiant,

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we called it Prince Valiant,

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and it took us a lot of places.

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Volcanic ash and lahar deposits.

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With those I-5 drivers,

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we have all had to adjust from viewing volcanos as benign to features that can harm;

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from seeing them as isolated,

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having just isolated monitoring to full networks,

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from scientists siloing in our offices to working in partnership to meet societal needs,

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from working in isolation from emergency managers to working and planning with them,

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even embedding in their offices sometimes to

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understand their culture and what we needed to do to get along.

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From news media avoidance, perhaps,

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the scientists to really encouraging the news media to work with us.

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From accepting an uneducated public to educating them.

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The lessons for us all,

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we all have to remain vigilant.

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As scientists, we need to establish our monitoring networks.

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We have the plan for it,

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with many different groups,

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for the next eruption,

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and never forget that it's going to happen.

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For budding volcanologists, I'd say that volcanology is about rocks,

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but it's a means to an end and that end is keeping society safe.

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To all of you who've witnessed volcanic eruptions,

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if you have a Mount St. Helens story,

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write it down for future generations, record it.

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For all, learn about the hazards to your community

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and inquire of the public officials about what they're

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doing in your community, about plans they've made,

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and plan and prepare your family and community,

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and, importantly, abstain from wishful thinking.

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Visit our website.

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My colleague, Liz Westby,

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and Wendy Stovall, and others around

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the Volcano Hazards Program do a great job with their social media posts.

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Checkout USGS Volcanoes on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram,

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and see our regular activity reports that come out every Friday afternoon.

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You can actually sign up to have these sent to you automatically if you wish.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you to everybody who's out there listening,

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who participated in this eruption and brought us into the 21st century.

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Thanks again to the Sno-Isle library system for all your help in putting this together.

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Visit our website, and you can see

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the little fact sheet that was written this year for the big anniversary.

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See the breaking news there about

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a big Reddit session on May 18th as well. Great. Thanks all.
